Pertaining to gifts: #53 Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. An ideal is fine to have in your own life, but imo it is dangerous to attempt to have one for a worldwide religious organization. Why? Nourishing both body and souls.Just my humble opinion. Gospel Q&A: I Feel Guilty That I Cant Fast Because of Medical Reasons. kc I love me some Pres. It appears that this phenomenon is growing and becoming even more common everywhere in the US church. They always see what they havent done instead of what they have because they are constantly reminded of what they should be doing. If youre already perfect, who needs it? The Spirits constant companionship is one of the greatest gifts of mortality. Reading over those messages, it is hard to come up with any form of consensus other than, everyone has a different opinion. XD. Her mother didnt come across as being perfect, but rather imperfect but faithfully trying, and her simple persistent efforts turned out to be eternally valuable. Perhaps the reason so many women have an aversion to an all Sacrament Mtg. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. #93 Ruth At a certain point, their best has to be enough. More importantly, which meeting do you thinkwould be more likely to provide meaningful support? Thanks for clarifying. Speechless. Support Epic Family Fun! Nourishing their souls instead of feeding their bodies? 22 I am aware of a seminary/institute teacher who is apparently of the firm and unshakeable belief that a pile of pizza must be provided each week without fail. Does this mean that finally..a talk could be about our Heavenly Mothers? Not at church anyway. Thank you to everyone! Could someone remind of what the day is for after all? Dont take us out of Primary to go eat Treats! Alece, My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. Being Both a Disciple & a Daughter: Balancing Formality in Prayer. Although Mothers Day is not fraught for me the way it is for so many, I will be watching with interest next Sunday to see which way our meeitng falls. I always had this huge chip on my shoulder about refusing the flowers because I wasnt a mom (I had kids later in life), but my own mother would force me to take it because it was a free flower. In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. Uchtdorf. The division of labor between the holidays helped to alleviate some of the awkwardness of the women = mothers mindset that we face in the US. Great post, Mark! When mothers know who they are and who God is and have made covenants with Him, they will have great power and influence for good on their children.. No love in mortality comes closer to approximating the pure love of Jesus Christ than the selfless love a devoted mother has for her child.. Scriptural women are perhaps safer :-) And in our ward, the men get cans of Dads Root Beer or Sugar Daddy candies. Im amazed that we arent using the most recent conference materials . Thanks, kc! So how does tax exemption relate to churches, and especially churches that [], You are so much more than the worst thing youve everdone., http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/, Inside the UK's Mormon missionary bootcamp - BBC, Former mayor, LDS bishop gets prison for child sex abuse - Salt Lake Tribune, The anti-racist Mormon trying to teach his fellow LDS church members - NPR, Mormon Church fined over claim it hid $32bn of investments - BBC, Linda King Newell, Feminist Scholar of Mormon History, Dies at 82 - The New York Times. Someone explain this. Too often folks with food allergies, diabetes, and similar challenges are left feeling like second class saints in our food-laden church culture. I dont see why having a Tiger Mom would be necessarily any more or less traumatizing than having a Don Draper Mom. It was my missionary farewell, back when such things were acceptable. Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. My bishop knows where its at, and we always get Dove bars, Milk for those of unrefined taste and Dark for the rest of us. Print out the short questionnaires included in the printable and distribute them to the mothers in your ward a few weeks before Mother's Day. Ere the sun goes down, I remember being confused by a few Mothers Day talks growing up. It is a simple answer, and it is trueThe most important thing a father can do for his [daughter] is to love [her] mother.'. He suffered for the sins, sorrows, and pains of all people, providing remission of sins for those who repent and live the gospel (see 2Nephi 9:2123). Yes! Women are saved in child bearing is good as always. Wow! Can I suggest NOT sending the youth out hunting all women? So, just an FYI to the LDS people here Non-denominational Christian churches focus EVERY day (especially Sunday) on God/Jesus Christ Generally the take home message (this would apply to mothers day s well) is that we are human so we are sinners and if we accept Jesus Christ as our savior then we can hand him our trials (very difficult to do) but when we dont and we are struggling He still loves us. He gets points for effort and most humorous and memorable! So our ward did 3 talks on Christ with each one saying one sentence of gratitude about their individual moms right before bearing their testimony. Ere the sun goes down. Products; . I have to say that I was almost offended that there would be an assumption that FD would be a piece of cake. At least half the ward was so embarrassed for her at this point that they looked as if they wanted to crawl under the benches. I also have plenty of friends who are single sisters and they mourn growing older and menopause because they wont be able to have the children they want to hold and love. Why can't we let women celebrate it how they want at home and focus on Christ at church? In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). Aleah served a mission in California and loves baking, Lang Leav poetry, Gaynor Minden pointe shoes, and Bollywood movies. At one point they cut down a tree and paraded it into town to symbolize the mother of the Gods (Asherah, anyone?). Somehow those who are not mothers are incapable of celebrating motherhood and thus it is painful for them and thus no one should celebrate motherhood as a church. It was the first Mothers Day since she died. My worst MD talk came in the Fast and Testimony meeting the week before in which my father, who was visiting since he no longer lived in our ward, decided to give some incredibly intimate details about his divorce and why he blamed it on several of his children, but not others. Alece, its usually when the admins sense that the conversation is no longer productive, or when we dont have time or patience to keep monitoring the thread. What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? Might spark some interesting conversations. Theyre all very good, and not being critical, but Hallmark w/ scripture would seem to be one way to describe the style of Pres. Im asking this out of genuine curiosity/responsibility for handing stuff out. I like the idea of a simple gift for those in attendance. The good talks that I have heard tend toaddressthe details ofan individual womans life, in all its messiness and particularity. There are diabetic men, arent there? Classic! What does it mean when we want to remove motherhood from Mother's Day? Gospel Q&A: Do We Really Have the Spirit With Us All the Time? . Don't subscribe Mother's Day Last year I used the last verse of "Teach Me to Walk in the Light" and the song "Teacher/Mother Do You Love Me" for the Mother's Day Primary songs in sacrament meeting. But from my description, it sounds like the typical platitudinous MD talk. Mothers, we acknowledge and esteem your faith in every footstep. Rockpond, is this separate from a Primary Program? Thanks for the reminder. Elder Ballard lists three ways mothers can do that; first, is realizing joy comes in moments, second is to not overschedule children, and third, to find time to cultivate talents and interests. It was a nice meeting. I'm fascinated by these two suggestions because I was leaning toward only having youth and men speak so that all the mothers had the day off. I only wish my daughter could come in for graduation I am sure we would skip church together that morning! But in Argentina, where Mothers Day is in October, they also tended to recognize International Womens Day (March 8) even in church (in addition to a wide variety of other holidays Childrens Day, Grandparents Day, etc.). Mother's Day Singing Time Idea. I mean big ol gnarly wretch. It would be much easier for me to hear mothers day talks if they were real instead of ideal, though Id prefer a good sermon on Christ, instead. However, Uchtdorf also gets women and articulates that better than most. He did not have any high-profile ward or stake calling at the time, not that it matters. For the injured interceding, Just wondering. They are there, you just have to do a little digging. Most seemed to realize bishoprics are trying and they appreciate any effort. Variations included a verse for when mommy comes home stoned, with descriptions of bratty violent Mormon children and a terrible version only whispered with stifled giggles including titillating, lolita overtones. Did they not have mothers? (did I mention he and his wife were not parents yet?). I wanted to know more, so here are his thoughts. Focus on womanhood and examples of strong women, not on a perfect homemaker mother. The reminder was given to visit those sisters unable to attend on Mother's Day. This talk by Elaine S. Dalton helps fathers understand the importance of loving and cherishing the women in their life. Im sorry too for the harshness In my expression in a previous thread regarding your views of sacrament meeting. The primaries (100 of them? Our new bishop, for the last three years, gave no gift or acknowledgement. Being there with my son was very nice. April 24, 2015 in General Discussions. We are an outlandishly weird, mixed up bunch of folk. It was both simple and profound. It demands that the single day of the year that Mother's are celebrated to a holiday that is solely for adult females and no one else. It was the service ofthe sisters that made the talk memorable. Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. ), Miriam his sister who obeyed her mother and stayed with him and suggested her mother be his nursemaid, and the daughter of Pharoah, who raised him. Use Mothers Day as an example of how a saint can use a tradition of men as an acceptable way to express Gods love and promulgate the Gospel. It seemed to strike just the right tone. This ordinance is an essential part of worship and spiritual development. Or any talk. Ugh.chocolate and cheescake.and NO TALKS!!! How about we don't celebrate either at church, but celebrate it in our homes with our mothers and fathers? Thank you. Maybe the Hallmark channel should use some of his conference clips as fillers when movies end early. President Eyringonce said that when he meets somebody for the first time, he assumes that person is struggling mightily with an intractable problem, and cannot see any possible solution. Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. Preparation Print the song pages. Home & Family. How cool someone reading my rambling! I believe he has mellowed and gained wisdom over the years and was a part of a later bishopric. It is the essence of who we are as women. This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. (Sorry to barge in madhousewife). LDS Mother's Day Gift Ideas: Great Gifts for LDS Women Mother's Day Cupcake Flower Card Mother's Day Gift Ideas: 10 Ways to Show Your Love on Mother's Day Mother's Day Chapstick Idea Mother's Day Questionnaire & Gift Idea Mother's Day Gift Idea: Candy Necklaces Mother's Day Treat Tags Mother's Day gift idea: Candy Flower Bouquets Categories . At my ward the angel mothers were to aspire to. Latter-day Saints to Attend Sacrament Meeting Only on Christmas Day Church Newsroom November 10, 2022 Church The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has. I have been given mostly free reign on my message. I think it turned out great. Or the best of both worldssend all women to RS and have the chocolate there so you get the women to walk through the door instead of to their cars, and so the kids arent begging for it? And he completely meant it too. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christs atoning sacrifice. Partaking of the sacrament is a witness to God that the remembrance of His Son will extend beyond the short time of that sacred ordinance. A BIGTHANK YOU to Heather Mecham for compiling all the results from this survey. They can eat whatever they want, in fact. I explained that I was not calling any men to speak, due to their tendency to give perfect mother talks, and felt they could do a better job giving an honest uplifting talk that could be of benefit to the mothers in the congregation. Just as he was getting into how pornography helped him through the divorce, the bishop stepped up and escorted him from the podium. The first speaker was a single father, then the bishop spoke, then the stake president spoke. I actually think its good to celebrate both Mothers and Fathers Days with the caveat to be sensitive to the feelings of those who have difficulty with that celebration. It defines our very identity, our divine stature and nature, and the unique traits our Father gave us.. Inevitably they would be instructed that the gifts were for all women, so theyd try hard to give me one. And home teachers were not comfortable giving flowers or candy to a single sister. Nice post Mark, I think we do need to be careful about how we say some of the things we do in church, and elsewhere. Our old ward in NY would take the funds normally used to purchase flowers, chocolate, etc. The talks are mostly bearable (though no picnic), but the worst is when the youth would spread out in search of women who were not holding whatever flower or chocolate. Which meeting do you think would be more meaningful to the participants? I too have wrestled with the infertility monster and MD was always a nightmare. This ordinance is an essential part of worship and spiritual development. Honoring Fallen Parents: The Fifth Commandment and Romans 3:23 The Fifth Commandment enjoins: "Honor thy father and thy mother." It is also a reminder that through His mercy and grace, all people will be resurrected and given the opportunity for eternal life with God. In simple terms his philosophy was that the church is not true because it is madeconsists of people who are imperfect and therefore not always true to all of the ideals taught. Get plenty HPs and Elders. I am understanding your POV. I didnt enjoy Mothers Day during my years of infertility, but Ive been surprised that I enjoy it even less now that I have children. This is Elder Hollands second appearance on this list of LDS talks on motherhood. Disciples should take this personal holiday to their own homes to celebrate it when and how they choose. Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009. That being said, my ward will be nice and quiet next Sunday, one of the joys of the YSA wards. rockpond I dont think it would occur to anyone to give a man a plant for Fathers Day *, but its very common to give women plants for Mothers Day. A cookie in a baggie? What if you brought in padded RS chairs for the YW & PRI workers, including Nursery sisters, so that they can feel a little comfort on that Sunday? Ours, like most, has its strengths and its weaknesses. Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). Forgive me for not understanding the blessing part of it. May your prayers be answered and your hopes and dreams become realities.. For those in Europe, is Mothers Day celebrated to the same awful-gut-wrenching extent? Tell the moms that you'll be playing a game with the kids on Mother's Day and that . I think she says that just because she is my mom. Julie B. Beck reminds women what it means to be a mother who knows listing a number of attributes, including the principles of bearing children, honoring sacred covenants, nurturing others, doing less, teaching, and leading. I have heard good talks and bad talks, and really dislike the sacralizing of the universal and perfectly average activity of mothering. Didnt we predict this? My own plan of attack: 1) lay some knowledge on people (see above), 2) talk about our own mothers and that they are real people who faced real struggles, 3) the Plan of Happiness (is that what were calling it now?) No one tries to probe for subliminal meaning in the choice of Fat Boys. Submitting to the will of the Father, He suffered more than we can comprehend: Blood [came] from every pore, so great [was] his anguish for the wickedness and the abominations of his people (Mosiah 3:7). We got the story about women blessing their cows a couple of years ago. As for me, I will be sitting this Mothers day out. He also addressed many different groups of women separately with distinct advice for their situation, including women with small children, older women, and women who never marry. I feel for how it hurts people to attend church and the sorrows they bear. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. I already have felt many of the concerns expressed, and approach this assignment with fear and trembling. My best friend (unmarried, childless at 51) has been asked to speak. Not using individual's names, I told stories of selfless service performed by sisters in our ward that I had observed during my time as bishop. It was so honest and hopeful all at once. Not that I am anything special, but I gave a Mother's Day talk when I was a bishop that was so well-received even my own mother loved it. Very useful counsel, Mark. I think its the best way to go. After a lot of thought and prayer I called two sisters to speak on some of the blessings and also the challenges of raising children in the gospel. Pres Hinckley and apparently Mark has it right. I miss her something terrible, and being at the grave-site really brought all of those emotions to the surface. My kids are way too distracting. each year when I plan the Mother's Day sacrament meeting I feel an extra bit of pressure to make it special for our wives and mothers. In my nearly 40 years in the church that has borne true. Your comment was excellent, especially this part: Jesus the Messiah wasnt just sinless, He was God. And, even worse, we are also cutting them off from the grace and redemption that Jesus offers.
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